@amira_s we had another member who’s brother was having sudden schizophrenic episodes. Mold exposure was at play and often toxicity is a major root cause.

Please read though this thread:

https://bbv2.genesisengine.io/forums/discussion/11014941/

And if you search “schizophrenia” in the top search bar from desktop or “Annie”, you’ll see many other threads where we discuss how to support someone with schizophrenia and what types of tests to get.

I’ve also asked my colleagues in Dubai if anyone works with schizophrenia – I’ll get back to you if someone replies.

@R-S

I share your frustration in wanting to understand what each symptom means, but the truth is there can be some overlap so it’s really difficult to tell exactly what is causing what. Everything you described after taking the DAO enzyme, from the dizziness and cold sensations to the abdominal discomfort, flushing, sour taste, and diarrhea, can be a result of a mix of factors coming together at the same time.

As the document stated, DAO breaks down histamine, but the process also creates ammonia and hydrogen peroxide. If your detox pathways or glutathione levels are already strained, these byproducts can make you feel worse. It can also temporarily shift the gut environment, which can aggravate IBS or SIBO-type symptoms in sensitive people.

Pausing the DAO until symptoms settle seems to be the most reasonable thing to do. And definitely let your body settle before adding anything else. The document mentions glutathione and magnesium because they help neutralize the byproducts of histamine breakdown. It does not automatically mean you should take them now. Not while you are still reacting.

I would also hold off on starting quercetin until you feel more stable. Even helpful supplements can feel overwhelming when the body is already on high alert.

How are you feeling today? Have those symptoms eased up?

Hi @AlFa – how exciting that you’re building your own house!!

Just to clarify, in our case it wasn’t electrical wiring under the bed. It turned out to be a water line, and that created geopathic stress that affected sleep.

What you’re showing me in the photo seems normal. Once the wiring is installed and insulated, it’s usually fine as long as there aren’t major cable bundles or water lines running directly under the bed.

If you want extra peace of mind, you can connect with Valentina, the building biologist who joined us in B Better. She’s great at reviewing plans during design & construction, and will help make sure the home environment stays as healthy as possible. Here was her offer for B Better members.

@LAK could you please pinpoint the time in the conversation where she mentions a referral to an oncologist in the UK. After the session, Dr. Kussmann emailed us all of the resources to add to the notes below the video, but I’m assuming this was forgotten.

If you can please share the timestamp, we’ll reach out to her and ask for that info.

In the meantime, I can recommend Dr. Abdul Kadir Slocum from ChemoThermia. You can listen to his session (also about integrative cancer therapy) here. He is an integrative oncologist who visits and consults with patients in the UK as well. You might want to reach out to their clinic:

For inquiries & bookings, patients can visit http://www.chemothermia.com or email info@chemothermia.com or call +90 545 596 48 43.

Hi @yasminatassi

Thank you for this challenge. I was actually also thinking of replacing our 23 year old Christmas tree with a new one this year, and wanted to go through the exercise of finding a lesser-toxic version of artificial trees.

So far, my search is coming up empty. They are all made of PVC. The lesser toxic form would be one made from PE (polyethylene) a. The other problem is flame retardants. Even if the materials are better, they will all be sprayed with flame retardants. So I’m not sure if a non-toxic artificial tree even exists. But I’m still looking…

In the meantime, getting a real tree is probably your safest best from a toxicity perspective. The Dubai Garden Centre just received a supply of Nordmann Fir trees from Denmark, and they’ll begin deliveries on Nov 24th.

I’ll be sure to let you know if I come up with anything else.

@R-S

1. The question of whether to introduce quercetin or the digestive support depends on your symptoms. Since quercetin requires some time to build up in the body, the effects may not be noticeable right away (ex. give it at least a month). So if your digestive system feels like it needs support right now, prioritize those. But the approach to help stabilize mast cells is a good approach too. It just depends which symptoms you want to prioritize.

2. Similarly, they are targeting different symptoms so they can be introduced in whatever order you feel needs to be prioritized for rapid relief. They can be all taken at the same time, but brought in one at a time to give the body time to adjust. The order once again, is up to you and what you feel would support your symptoms best.

3. As I mentioned before, DAO breaks down histamine. So if it’s taken when it’s not needed, it can actually create symptoms of low histamine. If you know you’ll be eating something higher in histamine, then taking it with food/beverages can help break that down better. And yes, the rash-like bumps and sun sensitivity could also be histamine-related symptoms

@R-S here’s the order of operation:

1. Nervous system regulation remains priority #1 along with gut healing support through food therapy/supplements.

2. Then supporting GPS if the system remains calm. And working on microbiome balancing with probiotics/lower-histamine fermented foods.

Rapid relief for histamine symptoms when needed and even pausing gut healing/digestive support when needed to calm the immune system.

Healing is never linear, so weaving in rapid relief support is part of process and normal. You’ll get through this.

Hi @R-S

I’m glad you finally felt relief with the DAO enzyme. It’s amazing how fast it works right?

Regarding the dose & frequency… I’m glad you asked. The reason why the dose is not included in the handout is because it’s purposefully left out. With DAO, it’s important to use the pulse method. Take it when needed, and stop when feeling fine. Remember – histamine needs to be in the right balance. Too much or too little will lead to symptoms.

Here are symptoms of low histamine so you can know when to stop:

-Intestinal: Low stomach acid, constipation, poor digestion, acid reflux (due to low stomach acid)

-Brain: feel sleepy, unfocused, low mood, low cognition

-Reproductive: low libido, erectile dysfunction (not your issue), difficulty orgasming

-Skin: poor wound healing, slow to sweat or no sweating

-Immune: weak immune response, not able to mount a fever

-Heart: higher blood pressure, cold hands and feet

And to correct low histamine, simply increase protein intake and eat more histamine-containing foods and drinks or add histamine-producing probiotic strains to bring levels back up!

So the suggestion is to take DAO on your terms: at the frequency, at the time and at the amount that works well for you. And keep in mind that the amount that works well one day may be different the very next day.

Your body becomes the guide!

Hope this helps.

Hi @R-S ,

The DAO enzyme is often used for rapid relief. As Daniel and I previously explained, it doesn’t require time to build-up in the body. Instead it goes straight to work to break down histamine excess right away. When taken with food, it breaks down histamine in those foods. When taken away from food, it breaks up histamine systemically. So for rapid relief, DAO enzyme can be a helpful addition.

@R-S

I’m glad to hear the flare is calming down. Once you start to feel more stable again, yes, bringing back in digestive support (enzymes, bitters, gut healing support) should hopefully ease that blocked digestive feeling again.

Keep in mind that when “GPS” are well supported, overall digestive secretions improve, including bile which is naturally antimicrobial. And bile all on its own is a helpful treatment for SIBO.

It is not recommended to start any “killing” until the GPS is well supported, and detoxification pathways are nice and open. Otherwise, a person risks overwhelming the liver and immune system, which can lead to histamine overload.

What can be done in addition to the GPS support, is bringing on board beneficial bacteria – through supplement (HistaminX) and/or fermented foods such as rice milk kefir and L. Reuteri yogurt.

Hope that order of operation makes sense.

@R-S

You are on the right track, and although this blip is making it feel like a major setback, it’s actually normal to happen. Rebalancing the gut and immunity is never a straight line because it doesn’t work in isolation. As you experienced, the gut responded to a stressful situation which kicked off a whole cascade of immune and histamine-related symptoms.

The confirmed SIBO is also a major producer of histamine which is making eating normal foods feel like mission impossible as well.

That’s why nervous system regulation is key throughout, while also supporting all digestive players GPS (which you had slowly started to do) once you’re feeling more settled again. This will help prevent SIBO from recurring.

Now that you’ve experienced this flare, you’ll hopefully have better tools at your disposal to handle it better. Did the homeopathic remedy help?

And once you’re ready to treat the SIBO, there are 2 ways; 1) with antibiotics or antimicrobials, and 2) with beneficial bacteria. Hence my suggestion for looking into various fermented foods such as L. Reuteri yogurt which I shared in my previous reply. There is also some clinical evidence with the Yakult brand of yogurt. Low and slow is the way to go when there’s histamine overload. But fermented foods can be incredibly powerful at regaining balance and modulating immunity.

Hi @R-S,

Histamine Nutrients combines some targeted nutrient cofactors with DAO, so it’s not needed if you’ll be taking DAO enzyme at a higher dose.

Quercetin is also a good addition but takes longer to build up in the body; they all have different modes of action and complement each other. Quercetin actually calms the immune system to reduce or prevent histamine release. DAO helps the breakdown of histamine, as do the targeted histamine-degrading probiotics.

Hi @R-S

One more thing to consider along with the DAO enzyme is a probiotic that helps break down histamine, also by Seeking Health. Some probiotics produce histamine, while others break it down. So this could be another helpful strategy to consider, alongside the DAO enzyme.

I also came across Dr. Davies L. Reuteri Yogurt in his book “Super Gut”, which has been shown to help those struggling from the symptoms of SIBO. As you know, SIBO is a major producer of histamine, so regaining balance is key.

It’s basically a long-fermented dairy beverage with the L. Reuteri strain as the bacteria. It can be made with coconut milk as well. I will create a handout/recipe showing how to make it. In the meantime, please watch this interview on the benefits of L Reuteri, and this article from Donna Schwenk’s “Cultured Food Life” website on how to introduce fermented foods in those with histamine intolerance. She shares a recipe to make rice milk kefir as a starting point.

Enjoy going down the fermented food rabbit hole… 🙂 Always here if you have any questions.

Hi @R-S

During a flare, allow your body to be your guide in terms of what you can and can’t tolerate, which might mean removing all supplements until your body can tolerate them again.

I’ll reply to your questions one by one:

1. Both regular quercetin and quercetin phytosome work, but the phytosome form is much more bioavailable, which means your body absorbs and uses it far better. Just keep in mind that you may need a slightly higher dose with regular quercetin compared to the phytosome form to get the same effect.

2. DAO enzyme can be taken any time of the day or night, with or without food, as needed. If taken with food and beverage, it helps break down histamine found in food and drink. If you’re eating a low-histamine meal, then it’s not needed with food. Instead, it can be taken away from food and drink to break down histamine produced by or released in response to overgrown or harmful gut organisms, such as in cases of SIBO/SIFO or leaky gut.

I love the education that Seeking Health offers to their customers. You’ll find their handout on DAO Enzymes very helpful.

3. Since quercetin requires time to build up in the body, DAO enzymes can provide relief much quicker.

4. As mentioned earlier, do not begin anything new until your body feels stable again to do so.

5. Histamine rises when the body feels “threatened,” so the fastest way to bring it down is to signal safety.

• Slow breathing (4-6-8 breathing)
• Vagal stimulation (Truvaga, humming, gargling)
• Cold compress on the chest or face
• Grounding (lying down with slow breathing)

In a heightened state, absorption becomes compromised so it’s best to focus on nervous system regulation to get out of that stressed state.

Also speak to your homeopath about remedies that can help with histamine overload like Histaminum or Urtica urens for example.

And consider stinging nettle/onion peel infusion as food-based anti-histamine therapy. But again, start slow and see how your body responds.

@yasminatassi I forgot to add the link to the elderberry syrup. Checkout Mary Ruth’s line of immune support products for kids. They’re great too.